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What are we doing about eForms?

Since eForms went down on April 4th, we've spent quite a bit of time figuring out what to do with our existing submissions. Flash back to the Government shutdown and you'll remember a similar message that went up on the eForms website asking people to submit forms by paper; and, although it wasn't obvious at the time, submitting on paper turned out not to be a good decision. Bearing that in mind, this is what we're currently planning:
  • We're going to give eForms 2-3 weeks to see what happens.  During that time, we will continue to talk with the ATF to see if a solid decision has been reached on the near future of the system.
  • In the meantime, we will continue to queue paperwork for electronic submission - so it will be ready to go when the eForms system comes back online.
  • If you prefer to have your paperwork submitted on a paper form, please let us know right away and we'll get it submitted.  Having said that, we do believe waiting will probably be the faster/better alternative.
Once again, we'll keep this blog updated as we receive more information.

35 responses to “What are we doing about eForms?”

  1. Stephen says:

    Appreciate you keeping us up to date. I’m referring to your blog for info on whats going on.

  2. Mike Alesso says:

    Thanks for the update!

  3. David says:

    So are existing submissions already in the system still being processed by examiners or is eforms completely shut down?

    • Dave says:

      The examiners are still approving forms; but, the notification system is broken. As a result, nobody currently knows what has been approved over the last week. We’re expecting that to be fixed soon.

  4. Sonnygunz13@yahoo.com says:

    Thanks for the update Dave. I’m glad they are still working on eforms. To all of us outsiders it appeared they had not approved anything since 4/4/14. This is really great news. I’m really close with a 12/5/13 , 12/9/13 & 12/14/13 (& 4 others ) I hope the notification systems gets back online soon along with being able to submit more forms, I have a few more Suppressors I want to add to the collection!

  5. John says:

    So it sounds like forms 3 and 4 are going to be the last ones added back to eforms but will be prioritized for paper applications. Is that what you guys got out of the statement? Is silencershop going to start paper forms 3 and 4 or wait it out a little longer?

  6. Patrick says:

    Where did this statement come from?

    • Dave says:

      Sorry, I was just hitting approve on comments last night and didn’t notice that bogus comment until this morning. We verified with the NFA Branch that is wasn’t official and removed it first thing.

      Sorry again for the confusion.

  7. Sonnygunz13@yahoo.com says:

    I seems that everyone who talks to the ATF gets a different answer on what’s going on… Ive heard ,Yes they are processing but can’t send emails & No that they have no way of logging in either and no eforms are being worked on/approved right now. So whats the offical word? They need to get their sh*t together and get back to it.

  8. Randy says:

    It would be nice to get an official answer. I was told yesterday that all submissions in the system would be processing normally.

    • Dave says:

      We can say for sure that everything that is currently submitted electronically will continue down the electronic path.

      • Papagolos@gmail.com says:

        Continue down the path as in being approved WHILE the system is down? Or they will be approved AFTER the system is brought back online? Have you guys received any EFORM approvals since the system went down?

        • Patrick says:

          Also, during my conversation with the ATF they told me no eforms are being processed because they cannot access the system. Perhaps the person I spoke with did not really know what was going on, but this seems to be a popular response from them.

          • Dave says:

            This appears to be accurate right now, but it’s also a temporary issue. When the eForms notification system comes back online everybody will know it’s working pretty quickly because we’ll start getting approvals again.

            I suspect we’ll get a pretty big batch right away from the forms that have been approved since the system went down – but it may not work like that.

  9. Kyle says:

    Thanks for the update Dave. Please keep them coming. I’m ready to place an order for a suppresser, but I want to know what is going on with the e-form system before I do.

  10. FED671 says:

    I called the NFA Branch today and was told while the efile system is down they are not working on any efiled applications.

  11. Matt says:

    I talked to NFA Branch last month and was told my Form 4 from 6 Dec submitted by Silencer Shop would be worked around 20 April. I found out on Monday 14 April that e-forms was down and called NFA Branch. I was told it was pending 6 Dec and my wait would be 9-10 MONTHS!!! I didn’t say anything except thank you, and hung up. I was planning on buying a .22 can this month but now am in a holding pattern.

    • Anibal says:

      Matt, I just called to check on my status, I was also told mine would clear this month a month ago. I also showed pending since Dec 6. The ATF agent told me they have been told to say 6 months from the day it went pending. So hopefully mid to late summer.

      I submitted a paper form for a SBR that same week and it went pending on Feb 14. She said I would get that back in December. A WHOLE FREAKING YEAR!

      • Matt says:

        I heard that the ATF sent out a letter yesterday, 17 April, to dealers addressing e-file being down, and what the outlook is. I was told it leaned positive. Haven’t seen it yet.

  12. Randy says:

    Wonderful! Looks like it will be the same time as paper forms if we are going to have to wait for it to come back up. It seems eForms was working too well for the .gov’s taste.

  13. John says:

    Went to Eforms this morning and its up and running, let me register as a new user. However the only form option I see is Form 6, is this me not knowing how to access the other forms or is the site really only limited to Form 6 for now?

  14. Randy says:

    Any word on submissions already in the system being worked?

  15. OD says:

    How about new submissions?

  16. rmodraom@yahoo.com says:

    Any news about new submissions?

    • Dave says:

      As of now, we have been submitting all Form 3’s via fax to get them into the system. We’re still holding out waiting for eForms to come back for Form 4’s; but, we’re planning on sending out a notification in the next few days giving customers the chance to get submitted via paper if they prefer.

      • judecoppeta@yahoo.com says:

        Are you guys still waiting on eforms to go back up or are you submitting via paper now? Thanks.

        • Mark Robertson says:

          Ultimately, we’ll leave it to each customer to decide for themselves if they’d rather wait from eForms to come back online or if they want to go ahead and file by paper. Our recommendation is that, at this point, it looks like paper may just be the way to go.

      • jonathan@kanarek.com says:

        Dave,

        Have there been any updates? Knowing how long the paper process takes I’m happy to wait.

        -Jon

        • Mark Robertson says:

          At this point, it’s not 100% clear when eForms is going to come back online. While this is just an educated guess, we believe that paper may just be the way to go.

  17. Ljaq516@gmail.com says:

    Any updates with eforms? I have a Saker 762 sitting in limbo with yall. Are yall still holding out for efiling or submitting paper forms?

  18. Jason says:

    I recently visited the ATF E-form site and they are working on it hard. I work in IT/web design and it is very difficult to get things to align and have the right file paths in the web page. In one day I’ve noticed that they have added the forms 6a and 6 part 1. It will only be a matter of time before they get everything up on the site and ready to go. On my companies website we had an influx of people requesting access and forms being submitted and it crashed our server. This is probably the same thing that happened in the ATF’s situation. They probably had a server that couldn’t handle the load of everyone hitting them at once. Regardless, from what I am seeing it looks like within two weeks to a month they should have all the forms ups and ready to go.

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