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We Guarantee It : ATF 41F Deadline

Silencer Shop 41F Guarantee With ATF 41F looming and going into effect on Wednesday, July 13, 2016, we at Silencer Shop would like to help you get over the legislative blues. So, without further ado… We offer you the Silencer Shop 41F Guarantee. Our pledge provides that if you purchase an in-stock suppressor from us by Wednesday, July 6, 2016, and submit all transfer documents to us by Friday, July 8, 2016, we GUARANTEE that your Powered By Silencer Shop paperwork will be processed under the current rules, or we’ll give you $100. Talk about a win-win situation for the customer! (Existing customers that already have all of their registration info on file need not worry about that part.)  

In a nutshell, here’s what 41F means to you:

  • 41F will require the applicant(s) to attach the following items to their application:
  • All applications “postmarked” (i.e., submitted) before July 13, 2016, WILL NOT be affected by the rule change, as it will not be retroactive.
  • 41F is set to be implemented on July 13, 2016.
  • You and any Co-Trustees on the Trust will be required when submitting a tax stamp application to notify the chief law enforcement officer (CLEO), but WILL NOT require their “approval.” (This “requires that a copy of all applications to make or transfer a firearm, and the specified form for responsible persons, as applicable, be forwarded to the CLEO of the locality in which the applicant/transferee or responsible person is located; and eliminates the requirement for a certification signed by the CLEO.”)
  • Beneficiaries WILL NOT be considered responsible persons (i.e., beneficiaries will not have to do anything when a Form 4 is submitted).
  • You DO NOT need to notify the ATF when adding a Co-Trust to the Trust.
  A completed ATF Form 5320.23 for each responsible person will also need to be included in an NFA registration after 41F takes effect. Form 5320.23 would require certain identifying information for each responsible person, including:
  1. Each responsible person’s full name, position, home address, date/place of birth, country of citizenship, and Social Security number (optional);
  2. A 2x2-inch passport-style photograph of each responsible person taken within one year prior to the date of the application;
  3. Two properly completed FBI Forms FD-258 (fingerprint card) for each responsible person.
ATF 41FWell, what are you waiting for? Our guarantee’s already in full-effect and gaining steam, so there’s no time like the present to get onboard and take advantage of this exciting 41F deal. With over 1,000 Powered By Silencer Shop dealers nationwide, finding a nearby option to transfer your new suppressor to will be easy. (Remember, there are never any transfer fees from a Powered By dealer.) We look forward to helping you beat 41F.   For all details and restrictions, please check our 41F Guarantee Page.

21 responses to “We Guarantee It : ATF 41F Deadline”

  1. Bob donaghy says:

    How does that work with the form 3 time (6 weeks) to get it transferred to the local dealer before submitting the form 4. Otherwise don’t you get a not in dealer inventory response from Atf for trying to process a form 4 before the form 3 is approved? Seems like you are bypassing the form 3 time somehow?

    • jeremy@silencershop.com says:

      We have a variance by the ATF to do this. The form 3 is approved before the form 4 is on the auditors desk. So it doesn’t need to wait the entire time.

      • steven k says:

        So if I order on this date and I live outside of Texas, the Form 3 is automatically “ominus dominus” approved? If not SS will give me a $100.00?

  2. I would like to buy the sig sauer 45 suppressor but you never have it available. Could I prepay for one to beat the 41F coming our way. I have a gun trust and currently am awaiting a yankee hill suppressor. Do you have an anticipating date when the Sig Sauer suppressor will be available?

    Thanks,
    Thomas S Johnston

    • jeremy@silencershop.com says:

      Sig has not shipped any of the 45 silencers to us. We have had them on order for about a year. We don’t anticipate that they will be in before July 13th.

  3. Mark M. says:

    Question: After 41F goes into effect, even Trust holders will be required to submit all described paperwork for purchase? This will include CLEO notification, passport photos, fingerprints, etc?

    • jeremy@silencershop.com says:

      Yes you are correct. However we will be able to handle all of that for you. Stay tuned for a post about the solution.

  4. Jason M. says:

    If I want a suppressor that is out of stock before the deadline, can I prepay for one to beat the deadline?

    • jeremy@silencershop.com says:

      If the silencer comes in before July 6th then you will beat the deadline. If not then you will not. Give us a call and we can give you an estimate on the silencer that you are looking at.

  5. JIM says:

    when you send in the form 4 an 3,, do they go at the same time

    • jeremy@silencershop.com says:

      Not at the same time but they do overlap. The date of the form 4 submission is dependent on the form 3 approval times.

  6. Hermann b. says:

    If I have a NFA trust already set up do the new laws effect me, or is there some kind of grandfathering in?

    • jeremy@silencershop.com says:

      No the silencer is grandfathered in not the trust. Any silencer bought after the 13th will require fingerprints and photos for each trustee.

  7. Kory says:

    So when 41f goes in to effect, would it just be simpler to run my future class 3 purchases as an individual? Assuming I don’t need them in my trust, wouldn’t this be easier, and not inconvenience several other people (just me)?

    • jeremy@silencershop.com says:

      Depends, with our new kiosks you only need to have the trustees scan in the fingerprints once and they don’t have to do it again.

      • Davron says:

        You don’t have to scan fingerprints again? But you do have to get their picture within a year each time? And even if they don’t live in the same county or even “city” (given metropolitan areas have lots of cities), everyone in the trust will have their local CLEO notified, even if the suppressor isn’t stored there?

        • jeremy@silencershop.com says:

          We will have an app for sending in your picture so that is the easy part. For the CLEO notification as it sits now the only CLEO that gets notified is the one in the state where it was picked up on approval.

  8. Jason says:

    For the ATF Form 5320.23 for each responsible person when using a Trust are we going to be required to fill one out for every Trustee and Co-Trustee each time we file for a Tax Stamp?

    • jeremy@silencershop.com says:

      That is correct, but if you buy from us we will handle all of that for you. Thanks for checking.

  9. Roger Ferguson says:

    If I get this to you by email on July 12 and to the local CLEO can I still make the July 12 deadline? I just found out about it. Thanks, Roger Ferguson

    • jeremy@silencershop.com says:

      We are working hard to get everything submitted today in. However we cannot guarantee that it will make the deadline since it has to be in the mail today.

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